The Military-industrial Scientific Research System of the Academic Master Chapter 888

Chapter 888 It makes sense to install a laser targeting pod on a business jet, right?

Serge Dassault's voice was not loud when he said this, but several people around him heard it clearly.

Everyone is generally open to this matter.

Making money is not shabby.

Moreover, although General Electric has now relaxed the conditions for cooperation, after such a round of repetition, both Dassault and Snecma will inevitably have the mentality of being bitten by a snake and fearing the rope for ten years.

At least in the field of military models, we have to think a lot before cooperating with the Americans in the future.

Of course, more importantly, today's M88-2 engine already has a relatively obvious Chinese design style.

Even if General Electric can really change its past and turn around, it will definitely not be easy to continue to develop on the current basis.

As for rolling back to the previous version and starting from scratch...

The French are a little timid, but they are not stupid.

As we all know in the field of engineering, if a system is working properly, try not to touch it.

Although until now, Dassault still can't figure out how the Chinese people managed to completely reborn the M88 engine in less than three quarters, but since the test results went well, it's best to let it continue so smoothly...

The entire Rafale project has consumed too much energy and resources from Dassault himself and Dassault Company, and cannot afford another round of tossing.

Therefore, everyone turned their attention to Ian Vista.

As the technical representative of Snecma, he is the only one among everyone present who has had long-term contact and technical exchanges with China.

Vesta, who was stared at by several eyes, had long been mentally prepared to express his position, so he cleared his throat and said:

“Judging from what I have learned and seen during this period, the Chinese aero-engine technology should have only been developed in recent years.”

“Well…of course we know that.”

Dassault showed a helpless expression and interrupted Vesta's speech:

“And I also want to know the reasons for their rapid progress, but at least for now, we should focus on more practical issues.”

The M88 engine is very important to Snecma Group, but it is not the most important.

After all, there is still the huge sales volume of CFM56 to protect the bottom line.

Although after the farce of the past two years, everyone has basically seen through that this "jointly developed" model is basically completely dominated by General Electric, but no matter what, the money that should be allocated is still a lot.

However, Rafale is basically a lifeline project for Dassault, at least for the Dassault Aviation division.

At present, the sales volume of Mirage 2000 is being crazily squeezed by the increasingly cheaper F16 and Su-27 series, and a new ultrlong-range business jet product line is under development. The entire civil aviation business is in a stage where it is unable to make ends meet.

Sérge Dassault could not be in a hurry.

"I know I know."

Vestal raised his hand and pressed it down, signaling Dassault to be calm:

“I want to say that the Chinese people are indeed quite unique in aviation development, especially in the field of aviation development design, but at least for now, their development is still quite uneven.”

"Although the Chinese have reserved many areas that are not open to us, it is not difficult to find that they are still producing several relatively backward models so far, such as the WS9 that imitates the British Spey MK202, the WJ6 that imitates the Soviet AI20M, and the Soviet P11F300's WP13, imitation PD3M's WP8…”

"Compared to the new turbofan engine used on the Su-27 produced in China, and the WP14 that appeared a few years earlier, these engines are completely products of the previous generation, or even the previous era, and are completely behind in technology. , but still not completely eliminated.”

"The most likely reason for this situation is that they now have one...or several, but not many, very capable R&D teams, so they can come up with several new products with first-class performance, but the overall industry The level is still very low, and there are not enough capable and experienced engineers to apply the advanced technologies in these new products to other models in a short period of time..."

“So, we can seize this time difference, come up with something that they are interested in, and form a community of interests with them by cooperating on projects... just like the Russians did..."

It should be said that Vesta has almost grasped the essence of the matter based on the limited things he has seen and heard in the past few months, which is indeed an extraordinary level.

The suggestions made are also very reasonable -

Compared to the simple form of buyer and seller paying for both money and goods, cooperation in which each takes what he needs is obviously a stronger relationship.

The typical example is Snecma himself.

Although they and General Electric had a lot of conflicts over the M88 engine issue, in order to make money through cooperation, no one had ever thought about making trouble on the CFM56 project.

The only problem is…

“Well, Mr. Vista.”

Ed Steiner, who had been listening nearby just now, frowned:

"You...you can also say us, of course. Is there anything that the Chinese people will definitely be interested in?"

This somewhat heart-wrenching question made the atmosphere cold for a while.

In fact, there is indeed a lot of technical cooperation between China and France.

But France is France, and Dassault is Dassault.

They do not have a platform like the Aviation Industry Group or the Import and Export Corporation that can coordinate the interests of different domestic enterprises.

Companies such as Dassault, Snecma, and Thales have a lot of historical connections and have been cooperating for almost half a century, so they can sit down and talk together to slightly coordinate their interests. .

But companies like Eurocopter and Airbus obviously cannot take chestnuts from the fire for the benefit of Dassault.

And this involves another more macro issue.

The size of France as a whole is still too small after all.

550,000 square kilometers of area and 60 million people. And there is also a higher education enrollment rate that is not outstanding among developed countries.

In this context, France has not given up its efforts to build a relatively complete industrial system, but it also wants to become a leader in the European integration process.

As a result, there are many things that appear to be French.

But it's actually European.

Or of the world.

Even American.

Perhaps there is not much difference at ordinary times, but when it comes to critical situations, it is often unavoidable to be helpless.

CFM56 is certainly more advanced than PS90A.

But if the latter is in a hurry, they can use their wealth to make transactions.

It is useless no matter how urgent the former is.

Snecma said it doesn't count at all.

“I remember…”

Finally, it was Dassault who broke the silence first:

“Many years ago, China should have introduced a production license for the Arriel series turboshaft engines?”

He looked at Vesta:

“Can you work **** this?”

Turbomeca, which develops the Arriel engine, is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Snecma, so it is naturally better to work within the framework of the same group.

“You mean Ahaye 1C?”

Vesta nodded:

“This has indeed happened, but on the one hand they have been able to produce most of the parts independently, and on the other hand...the importance of this project in China seems to be gradually decreasing due to the impact of competing products..."

Originally, the Z-9 has been China's only “domestic and usable” helicopter model for a long time, and it still has a certain status within the aviation industry system.

However, the good times did not last long.

Under the promotion of a certain person, Bingfei Group has successively launched two new projects, the 7-ton AC139 and the 10-ton NH90/Zhi-12, which were jointly developed in the past two years.

The former is about to deliver its first product to customers, while the latter has also entered the finalization and qualification process.

Especially straight 12.

After the temporary replacement of TV3-117VM, although the appearance is top-heavy due to the enlarged engine size, which looks quite weird compared to the original NH90, and the range has also been reduced, it is still a 10-ton helicopter after all.

The operating habits of the front three-point landing gear and side doors + tail hatch are similar to those of the Mi 8 series, which is already equipped with a lot of equipment.

Even with great efforts, there is still a certain potential for plateau deployment.

She immediately became the new Britney.

The Navy has even made new requirements for the hangar and helicopter deck area of next-generation combat ships.

Although the army has no money for the time being, like a young lady who has been to a big city, after she has set her sights high, she no longer values the honest people in the village.

There is very little interest in the Z-9 modified armed helicopter plan.

In this way, even if the Zhi-9, which has become Mrs. Niu, has not completely lost its value, at least it no longer needs to use a 4-ton body to undertake the tasks of a 6-ton or even a 10-ton helicopter as planned in the past.

The urgency is naturally not that high...

“Speaking of collaborative R&D…”

After another period of silence, Ed Steiner suddenly raised his head:

“I remember that the contact between us and China last year started in the name of jointly developing business jets?”

“Yes…but what's the point?”

This matter was just a reason in the first place. After officially establishing a bridge with the Aviation Development Group, no one mentioned it for a long time.

“What if...we give up some interests in the Rafale or Falcon projects and bring Thales Group in?”

Ed Steiner's mind suddenly opened up:

“The two Russian-made passenger aircraft currently produced by China have three-person cockpits, and more advanced cockpit equipment will definitely be needed in the future..."

“Even if it is not needed… Thales' photovoltaic system is certainly attractive enough…”

“Photoelectric system?”

Dassault was a little confused for a moment:

“Why do business jets need this kind of thing?”

“Let's borrow a name…”

Ed Steiner replied nonchalantly:

“If you have to find a reason...”

He raised his head and thought for a few seconds:

"In order to ensure the safety of VIP passengers taking off and landing in bad weather, it is also very reasonable for business jets to carry a day and night targeting pod to observe runway conditions, or a low-altitude navigation pod to avoid obstacles to avoid accidents like Air France 296... Right?"

(End of this chapter)

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